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[DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills trainmanjs@sbcglobal.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 03:43:46
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Dave Audley audleydave@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 11:43:11
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 20:15:49
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills fferrari138@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 16:06:15
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:18:56
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Johann Allenson vonclumm@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 07:46:26
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 11:50:56
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 16:55:30
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:12:55
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:19:00
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:34:05
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills jaguar66@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:37:17
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Leaf Walker jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:43:38
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Mark Demaline bngn1@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 21:30:46
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From: Leaf Walker jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2017-11-07 15:43:38
Subject: Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills

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As one of my old land lords used to repeat like a mantra, common sense!

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] <
DRGW@yahoogroups.c...> wrote:

>
>
> OK, so I decided to troll what imagery is available on the web. Pretty
> sure I was in error about it being hexagonal. Everything that I can
> actually see seems to show diamond-pattern expanded metal, fairly light.
> Unless this is later replacement material, universally applied, which see=
ms
> highly unlikely, I'm going with "not" chicken wire. Not wire at all,
> actually.
>
> Guess I should have known better than to take railfan jargon literally,
> huh... ;-)
>
>
> -Jim G
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW]" <DRGW@yahoogroups.c...>
> *To:* DRGW@yahoogroups.c...
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills
>
>
> Common sense tells me "chicken wire" is just a descriptive term. It seem=
s
> self evident that the material used was a heavy gauge steel to make up th=
e
> screened air intake. I doubt short of an EMD engineer reading this
> discussion and coming in with engineering specs on it, we may never know.
> If there are any F3's with original "chicken wire" air intakes still in
> existence, then if someone could get up close and person with a micromete=
r,
> and other measuring devices, maybe we might find out. Otherwise, we may
> never know exactly. The truth is out there.
>
> Jim Fitch
>
>
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