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[DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills trainmanjs@sbcglobal.n... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 03:43:46
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Dave Audley audleydave@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 11:43:11
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 20:15:49
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills fferrari138@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-10-28 16:06:15
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:18:56
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Johann Allenson vonclumm@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 07:46:26
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Eager jeager@sympatico.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 11:50:56
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills glenn_leasure@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 16:55:30
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:12:55
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:19:00
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 20:34:05
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills jaguar66@aol.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:37:17
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Leaf Walker jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 15:43:38
Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills Mark Demaline bngn1@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...) 2017-11-07 21:30:46
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From: Mark Demaline bngn1@yahoo.c... [DRGW] (DRGW@yahoogroups.c...)
Date: 2017-11-07 21:30:46
Subject: Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills

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Just downloaded & added 2 photos, including one close-up, of the "CNJ 57", =
the ex-BAR F3 at Jim Thorpe PA, showing the=20
chicken wire grilles. They show downloaded onto the Photo Album, but I have=
n't tried pulling them up. Hope this helps.=20
- Mark D
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:44 PM, "Leaf Walker jimfitch3@gmail.c... =
[DRGW]" <DRGW@yahoogroups.c...> wrote:
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=C2=A0 As one of my old land lords used to repeat like a mantra, common =
sense!
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Jim Griffin drgwlpd@yahoo.c... [DRGW] <DRGW@=
yahoogroups.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 OK, so I decided to troll what imagery is available on the web.=
=C2=A0 Pretty sure I was in error about it being hexagonal.=C2=A0 Everythin=
g that I can actually see seems to show diamond-pattern expanded metal, fai=
rly light.=C2=A0 Unless this is later replacement material, universally app=
lied, which seems highly unlikely, I'm going with "not" chicken wire.=C2=A0=
Not wire at all, actually.

Guess I should have known better than to take railfan jargon literally, huh=
...=C2=A0 ;-)

-Jim G

From: "jimfitch3@gmail.c... [DRGW]" <DRGW@yahoogroups.c...>
To: DRGW@yahoogroups.c...=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [DRGW] F-3 "chickenwire" grills
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=C2=A0 Common sense tells me "chicken wire" is just a descriptive term.=
=C2=A0 It seems self evident that the material used was a heavy gauge steel=
to make up the screened air intake.=C2=A0 I doubt short of an EMD engineer=
reading this discussion and coming in with engineering specs on it, we may=
never know.=C2=A0 If there are any F3's with original "chicken wire" air i=
ntakes still in existence, then if someone could get up close and person wi=
th a micrometer, and other measuring devices, maybe we might find out.=C2=
=A0 Otherwise, we may never know exactly.=C2=A0 The truth is out there.
Jim Fitch
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<div></div><div dir="ltr">As one of my old land lords used to repeat like a mantra, common sense!</div><div class="yiv7674600463yqt4466318915" id="yiv7674600463yqt84762"><div class="yiv7674600463gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7674600463gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Jim Griffin <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:drgwlpd@yahoo.c..." target="_blank" href="mailto:drgwlpd@yahoo.c...">drgwlpd@yahoo.c...</a> [DRGW] <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:DRGW@yahoogroups.c..." target="_blank" href="mailto:DRGW@yahoogroups.c...">DRGW@yahoogroups.c...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7674600463gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;">


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<div></div><div id="yiv7674600463m_8682446808929134902yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510064149914_52659">Common sense tells me "chicken wire" is just a descriptive term.&nbsp; It seems self evident that the material used was a heavy gauge steel to make up the screened air intake.&nbsp; I doubt short of an EMD engineer reading this discussion and coming in with engineering specs on it, we may never know.&nbsp; If there are any F3's with original "chicken wire" air intakes still in existence, then if someone could get up close and person with a micrometer, and other measuring devices, maybe we might find out.&nbsp; Otherwise, we may never know exactly.&nbsp; The truth is out there.</div><div id="yiv7674600463m_8682446808929134902yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510064149914_52700"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv7674600463m_8682446808929134902yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510064149914_52663">Jim Fitch<br class="yiv7674600463m_8682446808929134902yiv0348862783yui-cursor" clear="none"></div>

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